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Is It "Statistics Sunday"?

A DiabetesTeam Member asked a question 💭
Inverary, ON

It has been a while since I posted up Diabetes statistics, and we have a whole new crew of members, so here is a few Diabetic Statistics

Rate of Diabetes in the General Population - about 12% or 1 in every 8 people

In 1960 the rate of overweight/obesity was 13% and Type 2's accounted for 2% of the population - 1 in every 50 people

Today 72% of the population is overweight or obese and the Type 2 rate has increased 600% to 1 in every 8

Overweight/Obese = increased rate of diabetes - YOUR… read more

January 19
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A DiabetesTeam Member

@A DiabetesTeam Member these are combined stats from the US/UK/Canada

A few more stats:

60% of all diabetics live in Asia

The 5 highest rates of diabetes "in Asia" are (% of population)

Pakistan - 30.8% (almost 1 in every 3 people)
Malaysia - 19.0%
Papua New Guinea - 16.7%
Bangladesh - 14.2%, and
Singapore - 11.6%

Compared to the US - 12.5%, UK 8.2% "pre covid" (estimated closer to 12 now but the stats are not in), Canada 11% (with an estimate that an additional 5% are undiagnosed)

Nobody is doing even an adequate job of educating to try and prevent this

We need somebody to stop worrying about hurting peoples feelings and start a WAR on OVERWEIGHT and OBESITY if we want to push these numbers down

January 19 (edited)
A DiabetesTeam Member

@A DiabetesTeam Member yes, of course, it's always about "statistics"

So just like magic - 60% of the world population is Asian and since "statistically" each (region) has about the same incidence of Diabetes - high rate countries are averaged out with lower rate countries in the same region so it makes total sense

If Asians make up 60% of the overall population they should also make up 60% of the Diabetic Population

When a comparison like that is "Not True" it's a teaching moment

That's initially how the Mediterranean Diet was suspected of lowering your risk for Heart Disease

The population in the (cluster) statistically saw way less heart disease then "average" and their diet was the one thing was universally different - so it was studied and now it is "known" to be the absolute healthiest diet for Heart Disease, Cancer, Diabetes and the list goes on

Not the fountain of youth but compared to every other eating style, that one will statistically lead to the longest, healthiest life - for "some but not all"

Again, simply because you are playing the odds (statistics)

January 22 (edited)
A DiabetesTeam Member

@A DiabetesTeam Member it certainly is but I also do understand the reasoning

For example, in Ontario, with our socialized medicine (you can NOT opt for private - doesn't matter if you have good insurance or you can pay you get in the line with everyone else unless I go to the U.S.) the wait time for a hip replacement (as an example cited in the UK) is "estimated" to be 6 months from the time "you need it"

It can take upwards of a year to get the MRI before they would even determine you need it AND in reality I personally know a couple individuals that have been waiting over a year "on list" for the surgery

The pitfalls of Socialized Medicine - there is never enough money or enough resources

So given that - much the same way that they vet organ transplant patients - giving something that is in limited quantities to those that are best able to recover and will live a lifestyle that will protect that transplant - make it "worthwhile" it may creep into other procedures

And if there is two people in need of hip replacement and one is Obese which would not only complicate the surgery but also increase the chance of infection or severely slow recovery time or whatever they see as the issue should the surgery Not be offered to the person "first" who has statistically a better chance of success, successful recovery and better (use) of the limited resource

Just making the argument

Should we give a Kidney Transplant to an uncontrolled Diabetic, whose total disregard for sugar control, who regularly doesn't take their meds and eats like a Hog is what caused the Kidney failure in the first place

Do we simply give them another one to destroy?

Or do you give it to somebody who will at least try and take care of it????

January 20 (edited)
A DiabetesTeam Member

@A DiabetesTeam Member thats a slippery slope to deny services to the obese will they do the same to heart patience or diabetics. Or not treat asthma if you own a pet. Their motivation is money not health! Pretty frightening.

January 20 (edited)
A DiabetesTeam Member

I wouldn’t think that a1c 7%. is controlled If it was then I’d be laughing and I’m not.

Also is it an either/or as regards meds?

How many will happily take extra meds with increasing side effects or risk insulin therapy rather than take the hard road of losing weight and consistent exercise (whether that be walking etc/gym)?

My aim is not to increase meds but to reduce meds through very low carb consumption and quite a bit of exercise with two sessions a week in the gym, one long walk (16-18 miles), and 3 sessions on my exercise bike at home, per week.

Now, I’ve not been consistent with this hence my average weekly blood glucose is around 7.0 to 8.0 (I’ve not calculated the averages recently so it could be more) but the figures are trending down.

So in my opinion there is an alternative to increased meds and that alternative should be thoroughly investigated and tested before accepting there is no other option.

January 19

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